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« on: 02/13/08 »

I think it is time for this one to end.

I do not turn on my allies, which only leaves a few smaller
races now that PM is not playing. Therefor I an calling for
a vote to end this game. I wish DH would have stood by
his team mate PM and gone head to head with Poly and
myself.
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« Reply #1 on: 02/13/08 »

PM isn't actively defending himself.  All other opposition is gone, save some cantankerous individual tugging on Superman's cape...  And that isn't worth continuing this game for.  I think we can stick a fork in this one.

I will say that it is too bad so many people bailed on this game.  It could have been a whole lot more interesting.

I am hoping the management will email all players for this vote, and suspend hosting until he gets enough votes for a conclusion.  I am not sure how many people are paying attention.

To all those still in this game, see you in the echo cluster!

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« Reply #2 on: 02/14/08 »

I'm fine with it... to have lasted this long considering some of the opposition is good enough for me.
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« Reply #3 on: 02/14/08 »



I will say that it is too bad so many people bailed on this game.  It could have been a whole lot more interesting.

Polydorus


Interesting for who?

Why do you find it odd that people don't want to play the VGAP version of Little Big Horn?

This game needed to be called back in October......
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All strategy and tactics considered, even the most complex.........Victory is still determined by one simple rule: The winner is the one that gets there "Firstest with the Mostest".
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« Reply #4 on: 02/14/08 »

Superman?  I've met Superman, and you are no sSuperman..... Cheesy

Yes let's end this one.  Wal-Mart has won yet again!
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« Reply #5 on: 02/14/08 »

Admittedly, I am not Superman.  Or Batman either  Wink

Walmart???

Well, DH, I guess it really comes down to why one plays the game.  I play to play, and winning is secondary.  But I find that doing my best under any circumstances can often overcome seemingly long odds.

Even when you can't win, one can have a great deal of fun with it, and take a lot of pride in one's preformance.  Look at Adama's game on Circus Maximus, for example.

I still maintain that had our positions been reversed, I could have made a go of it.  And either way, I would have fought my best with PM, even to the bitter end.  And I probably would have enjoyed it, either way.

Perhaps these are some of the qualities, reasons, why Adama asked me to join Ed's and be his partner in the team game there?

See you all in the Echo Cluster!
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« Reply #6 on: 02/14/08 »

I say end it too. I figured it would work that way when I got put out of the top 3. 
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« Reply #7 on: 02/14/08 »

I say end it too. I figured it would work that way when I got put out of the top 3. 

No, we were talking about quitting with you in third place because you had
made an effort to play. But when you made the ''Y'all" post, we just agreed
with you and made sure that you we bumped to forth.
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« Reply #8 on: 02/14/08 »

I say end it too. I figured it would work that way when I got put out of the top 3. 

No, we were talking about quitting with you in third place because you had
made an effort to play. But when you made the ''Ya'll" post, we just agreed
with you and made sure that you we bumped to forth.
Well I appreciate the bump.. WHich I really don't care about this game anyways anymore I lost all fun of this game a long time ago. So i will be glad to have it over.

That to me shows a lot of Non Sportsman ship with what you just said.. "We agreed to bump you to fourth"   But like I have said before I am in it for the fun and when the fun is gone well its time to go forth.  But I say lets go ahead an put this game in the past and look toward the future... Put this one in the books as DONE...
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« Reply #9 on: 02/14/08 »

Vote is to end the game. Last host run will be tomorrow evening at 23:59 EST.
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« Reply #10 on: 02/14/08 »


Perhaps these are some of the qualities, reasons, why Adama asked me to join Ed's and be his partner in the team game there?

See you all in the Echo Cluster!
Polydorus

2 is a team.........4 of 11 is a slaughter........4 of 7 is a joke.

Congratulations on your win superman........beat your chest.


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« Reply #11 on: 02/14/08 »

I say end it too. I figured it would work that way when I got put out of the top 3. 

No, we were talking about quitting with you in third place because you had
made an effort to play. But when you made the ''Ya'll" post, we just agreed
with you and made sure that you we bumped to forth.

You manipulated the finish long before any forum comments........what other purpose is there for mega alliances?

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« Reply #12 on: 02/14/08 »

I say end it too. I figured it would work that way when I got put out of the top 3. 

No, we were talking about quitting with you in third place because you had
made an effort to play. But when you made the ''Ya'll" post, we just agreed
with you and made sure that you we bumped to forth.

You manipulated the finish long before any forum comments........what other purpose is there for mega alliances?


Because you can't do it own your own.
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Well, DH, I guess it really comes down to why one plays the game.  I play to play, and winning is secondary.  But I find that doing my best under any circumstances can often overcome seemingly long odds.


Considering what I've seen and what you've said I get the impression that doesn't happen very often.

For me the challenge is to win. If I just enjoyed grooming an economy, building ships and fighting I'd host my own games on my PC and fight 10 computer players. There are plenty of FPS games you could play alone at home that have cheats giving you unlimited ammo. Mega-alliance is the VGAP version of unlimited ammo.

The challenge is in the doubt. When you stack the deck you take away the doubt. You also ruin the game for others that play to win. Some people expect to sink hundreds of hours into their turns over the course of a game. Some of us spend hours planning and running calculations. Who wants to have all that thought and effort erased by huge alliances that win by numbers and not skill?

Remember....."Not everything, that is not forbidden, is automatically allowed". Mega alliance kills the spirit of the game. I find it rather hypocritical that you and Adama would jump on the forum and mock and lecture people about how they should have played against the odds. The odds should never have existed, you created them.......rather disingenuous for you two to preach sportsmanship isn't it?

Considering your less than sportsmanship play in the game, I'm not shocked that you would jump in the forum at the end and play the part of the sore winner. If you recall, I dropped out without any parting shots.....no sour grapes. Had you and and Adama not picked at this scab the game would have ended without much fanfare.


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Well, DH, I guess it really comes down to why one plays the game.  I play to play, and winning is secondary.  But I find that doing my best under any circumstances can often overcome seemingly long odds.


Considering what I've seen and what you've said I get the impression that doesn't happen very often.

Not very often.  And when it does, I don't whine about it.


For me the challenge is to win. If I just enjoyed grooming an economy, building ships and fighting I'd host my own games on my PC and fight 10 computer players. There are plenty of FPS games you could play alone at home that have cheats giving you unlimited ammo. Mega-alliance is the VGAP version of unlimited ammo.

The various Cplayers for VGAP are inferior to most (Some) people.  I do play some other games which are not so.  In this one, one of the attractions is the human element.

The challenge is in the doubt. When you stack the deck you take away the doubt. You also ruin the game for others that play to win. Some people expect to sink hundreds of hours into their turns over the course of a game. Some of us spend hours planning and running calculations. Who wants to have all that thought and effort erased by huge alliances that win by numbers and not skill?

On about the Mega Alliance thing again...  In spite of what anyone says.  But then again, if you were wrong about that you would have to admit you quit for nothing.

Remember....."Not everything, that is not forbidden, is automatically allowed". Mega alliance kills the spirit of the game. I find it rather hypocritical that you and Adama would jump on the forum and mock and lecture people about how they should have played against the odds. The odds should never have existed, you created them.......rather disingenuous for you two to preach sportsmanship isn't it?

Who made you Lord and final word on what is ethical and correct, even if I was guilty of what you accuse?  And why shouldn't they exist?  Because you don't like it?  I have played many games on the recieving end of a "Mega Alliance".  Bellyaching doesn't change it, or help, but practice does.  What we said about playing against the odds is only hypocritical if we don't practice what we preach.

Considering your less than sportsmanship play in the game, I'm not shocked that you would jump in the forum at the end and play the part of the sore winner. If you recall, I dropped out without any parting shots.....no sour grapes. Had you and and Adama not picked at this scab the game would have ended without much fanfare.

This is my final word on the "Mega Alliance" in this game:  The Privateer and Lizard were NEVER ALLIED.  I worked with the Privateer against the Empire only.  The Privateer didn't work with the Colonies.  The Lizard gave us his ships when he quit playing VGAP altogether (over differences with you in another game wasn't it?).  That is not a Mega Allaince.  If you continue to call it one, we will just have to agree to disagree.


I wasn't sore about anything in this game, just dissappointed.  And there were five people who quit this game, not just you. 

I am not shocked that you couldn't pass up the opportunity to whine some more.  I can't in all honesty say that you are a sore loser, you didn't play that long.  More like...  a sore quitter.

No sour grapes?  ROFL...  Those scabs must be really sore.

Adama asked me if I would join a challenge game against you guys 2 on 2.  I told him I didn't have the time.  And besides, what would it prove?  You guys have made up your minds that we screwed you, and the truth didn't change that.  Kicking you butts in a grudge match game won't either.  Besides, I would rather play with somebody who doesn't quit.

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